http://merentha13.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] merentha13.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] ci5_boxoftricks2012-05-04 08:31 pm
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A Question re British police

Doyle worked for the Met,Scotland Yard and CID - if I recall correctly (sometimes I get canon and fanon all mixed together!) - and he was an expert marksman. Would he have been allowed to carry a gun in any of his police roles? In the Drug squad? Undercover? My story has a apart that kind of depends on him being with some group of police that would be allowed to carry. Help?

[identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Greengerbil's info is pretty good: http://hatstand.slashcity.net/charinfo/doyle-canon.html

I only know about guns from Life on Mars. :) In that series the coppers were issued guns only for very specific operations. They didn't carry them routinely. I'm sure somebody will have great info for you.

[identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom

This might help. I'm sure I've seen more info elsewhere, will have a look.

[identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaand these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_unit

http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/history-from-police-archives/RB1/Pt4/pt4FirearmsSupTeam.html

In Heat Trace by Helen Raven, Doyle is a member of the Met (Metropolitan Police) Firearms Squad - meaning he was an "authorised shot" while deployed to a regular station job. See p 27 of the pdf version. I think it's pretty accurate.

Edited 2012-05-05 06:13 (UTC)

[identity profile] inlovewithboth.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not entirely sure, but I would guess they would have to book guns out for assignments. That's certainly the case in The Sweeney.

[identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
As I understand it, during Doyle's pre-CI5 time, outside of a couple of extremely elite squads the officers had to be authorised personally to carry ("authorised shots") through training & recognition, secondly the deployment in particular circumstances had to be authorised by the higher ups. Certain squads such as the dog squad seemed to have a higher number of, or expectation of, members being firearms authorised than others.